This dialogue will simply focus on whether or not the attacks on 9/11 were justified according to Islamic theology.
EW: Dr. Naik, in your opinion, are terror attacks like 9/11 justified according to Islamic theology?
Dr. Naik: Most certainly not! In fact, to prove this point, I'd like to read Quran 5:32, which clearly shows that killing any innocent person is wrong.
Quran 5:32-If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.
In this verse, we can see that God has said that you should never kill an innocent person, and we therefore know that terror attacks like 9/11 are terrible crimes against Islam.
EW: Yes, 5:32 is very nice. I've heard Muslim leaders repeat it on numerous occasions. But for some reason, I've never heard a Muslim leader continue on to 5:33. For the benefit of all here, I'd like to go ahead and read that verse:
5:33-The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement
So according to 5:32, the killing of innocent human beings is a terrible crime. But according to 5:33, the killing of others is perfectly acceptable, so long as the person in question has "made mischief".
I'd now like to discuss 9/11. Here are a few things we know about America:
America has invaded Islamic lands.
America has killed Muslim people.
America has taken advantage of the natural resources in Islamic lands.
So by any objective standard, we must conclude that America has "waged war against Allah" and "made mischief in the land".
Dr. Naik: *Interjecting: But the people who were killed that day were innocent civilians, not members of the military.
EW: I'm glad you brought that up. Could you please tell me the Quranic verse that explicitly makes a distinction between the military of an enemy nation and the civilians of an enemy nation?
Dr. Naik: Well, there are numerous verses that refer to fighting only on the battlefield, etc. (He might even make something up, so have your Quran ready; such a verse doesn't actually exist, so be ready to call him on it if he tries to either alter a verse or invent a verse).
EW: Since the Quran doesn't make a clear distinction between the civilians of an enemy nation and the military of an enemy nation, I'd like us to now take a look at a few ahadith.
Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4322:
It is narrated by Sa'b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet): Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said: They are from them.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."
These hadith tell us that Muhammad had no problem with the killing of women and children, as these women and children were of the enemy.
Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4457:
This tradition has been narrated by the game authority (Yazid b. Hurmus) through a different chain of transmitters with the following difference in the elucidation of one of the points raised by Najda in his letter to Ibn Abas: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.
And here we see that Muhammad approved of the killing of children who "would never grow up to be believers".
Book 38, Number 4390:
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.
And this tells us that during your prophet's mass execution of the the Banu Qurayza tribe, he killed all those who had begun to grow pubic hair, which tells us that your prophet was perfectly happy killing boys as young as 11 or 12.
Now that we know all this, let's go ahead and look once more at 5:33.
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement
And as we earlier established, America has certainly waged war against the Islamic God and caused mischief in Islamic lands.
We've also seen that your prophet and your god are accepting of the killing of all those in an enemy nation, which of course includes the women and children of an enemy nation.
So according to Islamic theology, the 9/11 attacks were justified, and your god was very happy about the killing of 3,000 of my fellow Americans on September the 11th of 2001.
In light of this, why do you think Americans should accept your religion in their country, and more specifically, why should we allow you to build a monument to your god right here in our town?
Dr. Naik: (I don't really know what he might say. He'll probably try to change the topic, throw out a few "nice" Quranic verses, etc. Just stay on him, and make him answer the questions).