vitor_palmer (vitor_palmer) wrote,
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9/11 hijackers in heaven being rewarded by God?

And here's another idea I've come up with. If it's flawed, please help me to fix it, and if it's good, please share it with as many others as you can, please use it any public forum involving leaders from "the religion of peace".

I’m working on a new approach to turning public opinion against Islam. This one deals with whether Islamic terrorists in general-and the 9/11 terrorists in particular-are currently in heaven being rewarded by God. I believe that if one of the Muslim clerics who are purveying this “religion of peace and tolerance” nonsense will admit to something like this, average, everyday people will start to take notice.

However, at this point, my knowledge of the Quran and Islamic theology is somewhat lacking, so if anyone could help refine this idea, I’d greatly appreciate it.

Here’s how I could see it going:

EW=Average non-Muslim guy
MC=Friendly, genuine, sincere “Man of God”

EW: Thank you for calling this conference to explain the Islamic faith in greater detail. Your reassurance that Islam is in the fact the religion of peace have allayed all fear and skepticism I have of the Islamic faith.

But I do still have a couple issues I hope you can clear up for me. The first relates to the last days of the prophet Mohammed’s life. According to Islamic theology, while Mohammed was on his deathbed, he commanded the Arabian Peninsula to forever remain free from foreign armies. Is that correct?

MC=Yes, that was what our beloved Prophet told us.

EW=And as we all know, the words of a dying man carry much weight, so this certainly must have been an important issue for him, yes?

MC=Yes, this was something he felt very strongly about.

EW=So according to your belief system, any foreign invader occupying the Arabian peninsula is a great crime, is that right?

MC=Well yes, but we (I expect some irrelevant, tangential ramblings to take place at about this point)

EW=Please answer the question MC. Is it or is not a great crime against your religion for a foreign invader to occupy the Arabian Peninsula?

MC=(Hopefully at about this point he’ll reluctantly give an answer, which would have to be yes)

EW=Thank you for establishing that it is in fact a great crime for non-Muslims to occupy the Arabian Peninsula. Now that we’ve established this point, we can correctly say that America has committed a great sin against the Islamic faith by occupying the Arabian peninsula, is that correct?

MC=(More off-topic rambling) It’s going to be essential the audience not let him off the hook here. Demand he answer the question.

EW=So America has in fact committed a great sin against the Islamic faith, and according to the Islamic faith, it should be considered an enemy of Islam, is that right?

MC=(I know it’s not going to this simple, but let’s pretend he’ll just say yes)

EW=Okay, in that case, you have now confirmed that America is an enemy of Islam. And here’s quote from the Quran that I’d like you to confirm

Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.

Is this an acceptable translation? Yes or no?

MC=(Again, let’s imagine he just says yes)

EW=Alright, so if that’s the case, America has not only persecuted Muslims-a crime which is worse than killing a non-Muslim-, it has killed Muslims, and it has occupied the Arabian peninsula. Are these or are these not serious offenses against Islam?

MC=Well, perhaps but…(more ramblings-again, the audience has got to make the cleric give a straight answer)

EW=Alright, so there can be no doubt that America has committed a great offense against Islam.

Now I’d like to take a look at a well-known terrorist Mohammed Atta (I’m using him solely as an example-I don’t know his full story, so if someone has a better example, feel free to make the change-I think it’s important we use a 9/11 hijacker, however)

Are you familiar with Mohammed Atta’s life, MC?

MC=Yes, I’ve heard of him

EW=Alright, and for those who don’t know, Mr. Atta was one of the 9/11 terrorists, and some say he was the “mastermind”, but that’s irrelevant for our discussion. Just understand that he was one of the 9/11 terrorists.

Now, I’d like to ask you some questions about what constitutes a “good” Muslim.

Now feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but how do Muslims enter heaven? Is it correct that according to Islamic theology, one can enter heaven if he accepts that Islam is the true religion and believes that Allah is the only true God?

MC=Yes, that’s the basic message, though there’s more to it than just that.

EW=Okay, and Muslims also believe that it’s essential for every able-bodied person to make the hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca, is that correct?

MC=Yes, that is true.

EW=Okay. And Muslims also believe that it’s necessary to pray five times a day, is that right or wrong?

MC=That’s right.

EW=Alright. Now I’d like to ask you to verify another Quranic verse:

Qur'an (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way". Is this the correct translation?

MC=Well yes, but fight is mistranslated, in this case it refers to a spiritual struggle, etc.

EW=Alright, and could you also confirm the accuracy of this quote from the Quran:

Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth.

Is this accurate?

If yes, it seems to confirm that fighting in Allah’s cause, and killing and dying for Islam are a guarantee to passage to Heaven, is that accurate?

MC=More wavering, rambling (Let’s pretend he eventually says yes)

EW=So you confirm that this translation is accurate.

Alright, then let’s go back to Mohammed Atta. Here’s what we know about his life:

He was a Muslim. He accepted that Allah is the one true God, and that nothing happens except for what Allah wills. We also know that Mohammed Atta made the pilgrimage to Mecca, and that he prayed five times a day.

We’ve also already established that America is an enemy of Islam for occupying the Arabian Peninsula. So when Mohammed Atta attacked America on 9/11, he was attacking an enemy of Islam. And Mohammed Atta killed others and died during this attack.

You also have confirmed that Heaven is guaranteed to those who fight and die for Allah. As we’ve established, America is an enemy of Islam, so we must conclude that Mohammed Atta died for Allah’s cause.

Therefore, according your logic and your holy books, we must accept that Mohammed Atta is currently in Heaven, being rewarded by his God.

Do you confirm or deny this claim? Do you personally believe that Mohammed Atta is in heaven right now, being rewarded by his God?

MC=(I’m sure there’ll be no shortage of misdirection, deflection, off-topic ramblings, but once again, it’s up to the audience to force him to respond)

I’m not entirely sure what happens at this point, but be certain to press him. According to Islamic theology, his actions were justified and there can be no question that Atta is in Heaven as we speak. If a “peaceful” Muslim cleric will admit that one of the 9/11 hijackers is being rewarded for his behavior, it could be a great loss for Islam.
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